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What if Earthling Z-Senshi wished to be Saiyajin's?
Topic Started: Feb 29 2012, 09:35 PM (1,241 Views)
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Here's a thought. What if, come Android saga pre-Kamiccolo or Cell Games, Earthlings, or more specifically, Krillen and Ten wish to be Saiyajins, then entered the RoSaT, with Son, Gohan, or Trunks (can't see Vegeta helping)

1) Would they have the potential to reach SSjin? I can see Ten doing so especially if one of the Saiyajin's help him along. Where would it place them power-wise? They would still be much weaker than Namek SSjin Son Goku, but surely it could help later on in the series.

2) Would/could they be rivaling Kamiccolo's power? Gohan trained a year w/ Son Goku in the RoSaT and achieved SSjin....If Ten/Krillin had the same experience could they be on similar levels to Cell Games Son Goku or Gohan, be it lower due to potential differences?

3) Regardless of later villains, as even fully trained SSjin2 Son Goku/Vegeta/Gohan were no match for Fat Boo, but just on a general basis, how powerful do you think they could become? Ten - trains very hard and often, lacks effective training partner, but obviously found ways around it previously. Krillin, well, could train with 18 a lot and see improvement, considering he could train with 18 until he is exhausted, with 18 having unlimited stamina, perhaps bring 16 along in case of a need for a stronger opponent.

By EoZ Ten, being the most likely to carry on training and Krillin/Yamucha probably taking the same life route as in the manga/anime, could be extremely powerful, perhaps even achieving levels beyond SSjin?

Although, unless the wish was made on Namek or just after, I can't see either of them making a difference to the storyline, it's just an interesting thought that came to mind.
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If they wished to be saiya-jins from the start of Dragon Ball Z, there'd be a huge difference. Yamucha would be overpowering. :D

I make my PL lists based on logic rather than plot-devices (whenever I can) so I have training multipliers for each character.

With that said, RoSaT with a stronger spar partner is a huge boost to their multiplier, reason Gohan & Goku got so stronger and Vegeta & Trunks didn't (I believe Vegeta's pride didn't allow him to train much with his son), so let's see:

Kuririn (Full Power) - 2,000,000 [Pre-RoSaT]

If he didn't achieve Super Saiya-jin.

If he achieved Super Saiya-jin.

If he achieved Mastered Super Saiya-jin.



Tenshinhan (Full Power) - 1,300,000 [Pre-RoSaT]

If he didn't achieve Super Saiya-jin.

If he achieved Super Saiya-jin.

If he achieved Mastered Super Saiya-jin.



Wouldn't help much, they'd all get stomped by SSJ Goku (Android Saga) no matter what. Thing is, this late in the series almost nothing could make them catch up, the only time they could've was in the Three Years gap, but they decided to train lightly instead of doing it for real like Goku, Piccolo, Gohan and Vegeta.

If Tenshinhan, Kuririn, Yamucha and Chiaotzu trained together and on high gravity for the three years, they could possibly catch up to the saiya-jins, but Akira didn't want that and we can't argue with his choices.

As for Buu saga I have no idea.
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First I lose the respect I have over the Z senshi they should be proud of they human heritage not be a saiyans just to become stronger, second they don't have the same fighting spirit like goku or vegeta they just stop training cuz of peace like krillin tien may train and become stronger but nowhere near goku or vegeta power IMO.
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kuririn had been training with goku since they were kids, in the end he just simply said, they train to hard.

The humans cant keep up. So they dont try. IMO, if kuririn kept training with the saiyans like in movie 11? he would be hella powerful. like in movie 11.

But he gave it up, he got his wish.
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Tenshinhan and Krillni are the main ones to talk about. They have always been a cut above the rest (well, Krillin not so much earlier on). If they had SSjin in the androids arc they would have been able to take c19 and c20 with ease (very much like Vegeta and Piccolo).
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I agree with most of the stuff above, but would they have anyway of actually becoming Saiyans? I mean, if Shenron can't turn the androids into earthlings again, I doubt he could do that.

If they were Saiyans, I think Krllin and Tien would keep up with the rest.
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You have to be pure to turn Super Saiyan, pure good or evil, and I don't think Tien and Krillin are either.
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Mar 1 2012, 02:12 PM
You have to be pure to turn Super Saiyan, pure good or evil, and I don't think Tien and Krillin are either.
Kid Trunks didn't look pure good to me. <_<

Btw, I could really see SSJin Tien at Piccolo's level by the Cell Games. Maybe he'd end up even stronger.
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Mar 1 2012, 02:39 PM
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Mar 1 2012, 02:12 PM
You have to be pure to turn Super Saiyan, pure good or evil, and I don't think Tien and Krillin are either.
Kid Trunks didn't look pure good to me. <_<

Btw, I could really see SSJin Tien at Piccolo's level by the Cell Games. Maybe he'd end up even stronger.
Well then argue with Toriyama who stated it was a pure heart, not me.
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Mar 1 2012, 02:44 PM
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Mar 1 2012, 02:12 PM
You have to be pure to turn Super Saiyan, pure good or evil, and I don't think Tien and Krillin are either.
Kid Trunks didn't look pure good to me. <_<

Btw, I could really see SSJin Tien at Piccolo's level by the Cell Games. Maybe he'd end up even stronger.
Well then argue with Toriyama who stated it was a pure heart, not me.
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Our source is Goku, whom, at that point, a little more than a year ago, didn't even know he was a Saiyan. Then Kuririn go apers over Vegeta doing it. And, imo, I don't see Future Trunks as being pure evil or good...
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Mar 1 2012, 03:14 PM
Our source is Goku, whom, at that point, a little more than a year ago, didn't even know he was a Saiyan. Then Kuririn go apers over Vegeta doing it. And, imo, I don't see Future Trunks as being pure evil or good...
Vegeta didn't deny that you didn't need to be pure though, if anything by saying that he was pure "pure evil" he was practically confirming it.
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[shrugs] i dunno. I just call contradiction. Would Future Trunks be able to ride Nimbus?
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Mar 1 2012, 05:14 PM
[shrugs] i dunno. I just call contradiction. Would Future Trunks be able to ride Nimbus?
I honestly wouldn't doubt it. I don't see how Future Trunks isn't pure good tbh. Kid Trunks I can understand, but not Future Trunks.
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Mar 1 2012, 03:21 PM
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Mar 1 2012, 03:14 PM
Our source is Goku, whom, at that point, a little more than a year ago, didn't even know he was a Saiyan. Then Kuririn go apers over Vegeta doing it. And, imo, I don't see Future Trunks as being pure evil or good...
Vegeta didn't deny that you didn't need to be pure though, if anything by saying that he was pure "pure evil" he was practically confirming it.
Vegeta wasn't pure evil, he just liked to talk big. When does it actually get stated/who states it. In universe I don't see how anyone COULD know except maybe Vegeta from tales passed down or one of the Kais, I genuinely don't remember who said it/when.

But yeah, Vegeta wasn't pure evil at that point, I'd argue he wasn't even pure evil on Namek.


As for Saiyan Z-fighters...well if they were comparable from the word go then Yamcha/Krillin may continue training, Tien might actually be of use (akin to Piccolo) and I'd put Krillin above him, under the assumption that he continues training with Goku/Gohan. Actually I wonder if that would benefit all round since Gohan would have willing sparring partners in the 7 year gap to help him along...It's a hard one to discuss, depends on when they turn and if they'd continue training given the increased power...
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